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  am I making the right choice?

  by lostinthought in

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  fortis et liber

  I tend to over think things too, Lost -- what I find helpful sometimes is breaking down the situation and separating the emotion from the facts. You mention finding out the 'truth about the truth,' that moment can be overwhelming because of all that it entails (i.e. potentially, the cost of leaving and/or separating yourself from the organization) but the flip side of that is, the facts. And the fact of the matter is, it's not "the truth" at all, it is a man made organization run by a bunch of guys in Brooklyn (or wherever GB currently resides). Isn't that a relief to know that?

  They say 'ignorance is bliss' for this reason. Sometimes when you actually dig deep and learn about something you are called to action by something deep inside, based on reason. That is, *your* reasoning, your thinking about the facts you are uncovering. The action that is called for may by accompanyied by some painful side effects but, would you rather stay ignorant to the facts then know the actual 'truth'?

  Hang in there.

  ~ Fortis
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  Showed the new JW cartoon to my non-witness Girlfriend- Take 2

  by KidKool in

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  allright my first post messed up and i lost it some kind of way.

  haven't posted on here in along time, obviously don't know how to anymore.. trying again.. so i was raised a jw, da for over a decade, of course estranged from parents and jw family, have a teenage son from a previous relationship.. anyways, i wanted to see what someone who had no first hand knowledge of the jws would think.

  so i showed my non-jw girlfriend the obey jehovah (go sparlock!

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  fortis et liber

  Wait, the Sparlock video is not a spoof?!?! I seriously thought it was an anti-JW thing, is it really a J-dub production? I am dumbfounded.

  ~ Fortis
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  I'm curious...........how many of you are going out in Field Service tomorrow? I'm serious.

  by La Falta Habitacion Por Sr Hor-Hey!! in

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  just wondering.

  i'm going out in the morning, but i'm wondering who else here in undercover apostate land will be meeting up with their own respective groups for theocratic activity tomorrow.

  for those of you going, will you be preparing your presentations tonight?.

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  "So many of you are gonna be toast on the Great Day of Jehovah, you inactive bastards." Miz, I'm at work and this actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks! ~ Fortis
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  I'm curious...........how many of you are going out in Field Service tomorrow? I'm serious.

  by La Falta Habitacion Por Sr Hor-Hey!! in

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  just wondering.

  i'm going out in the morning, but i'm wondering who else here in undercover apostate land will be meeting up with their own respective groups for theocratic activity tomorrow.

  for those of you going, will you be preparing your presentations tonight?.

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  fortis et liber

  Nope, I'm waking and baking then going for a really long bike ride.
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  I Would Like To Announce: The JWs Are A CULT!!!!

  by minimus in

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  ok, i feel better now..

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  fortis et liber

  Hear, hear!! And what a beautiful day it is when you finally realize that (and then the anger kicks in)...

  ~ Fortis
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  Happiest sadness I've ever felt

  by BreathoftheIndianNose in

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  wow, so far 4 out of 4 "worldly" people i've talked to about my situation, actually care.

  i mean ive been telling myself that most people would care.

  but i can just tell, by the way i feel shocked and surprised at their genuine interest to listen and help, that subconsciously, i still feel like no worldly person cares.

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  fortis et liber

  Welcome BreathoftheIndianNose, I too was a born in and managed to finally muster the courage to leave at 27. I understand well your "happiest sadness." I am happy that you have found some freedom and are enjoying your life as it was meant to be: *yours* to enjoy. I look forward to reading your posts.

  ~ Fortis
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  I remember how I always preferred working alone door to door

  by gubberningbody in

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  i'd just stand at the door and not knock on it or ring it.

  if someone came, i'd make a presentation - "here's your tract!".

  otherwise i'd just wait a couple of minutes and then go to the next door and not knock.. .

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  Designs, yes, I remember that and also remember cringing over it too. What I dreaded the most was being forced as a teenager to work, with my mother, in a neighborhood filled with non-JW classmates. My mother paid special attention to enunciating our last name and, if a 'younger' householder was at the door or within earshot, she would specifically ask, "perhaps you know my daugther, Fortis?" I wanted to crawl in a hole and die. ::shudder::

  ~ Fortis
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  What is Most Essential for HAPPINESS, ?

  by caliber in

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  something to do, someone to love, or something to hope for ...do you need all or just some of these for a fulfilling life ?.

  which one is most essential or are all equal in importance ?.

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  fortis et liber

  Oh and Twitch, good one.
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  What is Most Essential for HAPPINESS, ?

  by caliber in

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  something to do, someone to love, or something to hope for ...do you need all or just some of these for a fulfilling life ?.

  which one is most essential or are all equal in importance ?.

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  fortis et liber

  Operating as close as reasonably possible to your 'true' self. What is your own personal 'truth' this, I believe, is one of the great questions in life. Esentially, at our core, I believe we are all generally pretty happy it's all the other 'stuff' that we heap on (i.e. obligations that feel like huge burdens) ourselves that wear away at our essential happiness. Of course, there are unavoidable obligations that are simply a must to fullfill and not always super pleasant to do so but, as closely as we can marry the two -- aliging the meeting our obligations with activites that bring us realative joy and fullfilment, the 'happier' we will be. This is because real happiness doesn't come from the outside but from within.

  ~ Fortis
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  Tomorrow is a big day for me

  by coffee_black in

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  i will be 60 tomorrow.

  on the one hand, it's just a number.

  on the other hand, it's a big number.... .

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  fortis et liber

  Happy (soon to be) birthday, I hope it's an amazing one!

  ~ Fortis